Wednesday, September 12, 2007

Hobbton High School: No American Flags!

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-09-11-0027.html

Unbelievable. First, people are attacking the concept of forcing students to say the Pledge. Then people attack the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge. Now, people want to ban clothes with the American flag.

Hobbton High School (in North Carolina) has decided to ban all clothes with any flags because in the words of the superintendent, they didn't want educators deciding which flags would be permissible.

Why would a flag on clothes be banned in the first place?
If we were going to ban flags, why not every country EXCEPT our own, the United States of America.

This is how a country becomes weak; when people are forced to lose patriotic feelings and unable to show their support for their own country.

Educators are horrible in this country. Most are highly unqualified to teach yet they have such a prominent role in the development of our children. All of them have a "politically correct" ethos, that doesn't want to assign value designations to anyone or anything.

Students should not follow this ban. Here is a classic case where civil disobedience should be utilized.

2 comments:

Capt. Fogg said...

It's against many people's religious principles to be forced to take an oath, particularly when God is involved, that's why. Read the Ten Commandments. It has something to say about using God to flatter ourselves and our politics and wars and football games.

America has no official deity or deities; no official religion or belief - it's the law. It's the law because Jefferson and Washington and Madison and even old Tom Paine hated churches and priests and churchmen telling them what to believe and what to say. So do I.

Anyone forcing my kids to pledge anything against their will had better be bulletproof. The constitution forbids us to require religious oaths or tests and the "under God" appeared in 1954 when I was in 5th grade, it's not part of our history, it's part of Eisenhower's looking to make the commies seem evil - I haven't said the pledge since and in a country with freedom of speech, that's not a problem. It's not even an official government thing because it would be illegal if it was. Read the constitution - read Jefferson - read something.

I'm not required to believe in or honor or worship another man's idea of God and the government is forbidden to tell me anything whatever about God or what to believe. I like it that way, it's called freedom. What's wrong with freedom?

If we are going to insist on passing laws forbidding the desecration or misuse of the American Flag, how can we allow people to use it as underwear or even to dispose of flag garments? There are many ways to display flags that don't involve jockey shorts or mini-skirts.

What is a value designation? Do you mean no one wants to assign your opinions some special and peremptory place?

all of them? that's supposed to be a serious statement? You've been to all the schools - or do you just listen to Fox a lot?

I will teach my kids about religious values thank you and once again, anyone caught proselytizing them or violating their first amendment rights had better be bulletproof because we have our second amendment rights too, don't we?

That goes double for anyone trying to turn my free country into the Biblical Republic of Jesustan. You go to your church, I'll go to mine and that way we can still pretend to be a free country. OK?

TorchofLiberty said...

Jefferson might have hated churches and priests (I don't think he did, but frankly I don't know enough to contend that), he was sure to include Him in the Declaration of Independence. By Creator, he obviously means God or Higher Being.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I don't want to force God upon anyone. That's not my point. I don't want to force kids to take an oath they don't believe in. I do think instilling some patriotism is a good idea. It's bad to raise children to hate your country.

More importantly, the point of the post is that I don't want any school to tell my children they aren't allowed to wear clothing with the American flag on it. That right should be protected as well as any flag that any child wants to wear.

The fact that you have to threaten me with violence shows the weakness of your argument. And you the second Amendement doesn't guarantee you the right to shoot someone because you disagree with them or because they are trying to introduce your child to God. That would be murder, a federal crime.